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Big XII Offensive Player of the Week...OU's Baker Mayfield...

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Safe to say that so goes Mayfield, so goes OU, who would be 1-2 without him.

Absolutely CT. Baker has been leaps and bounds better than I would have imagined. He is another example that star ratings and a huge list of elite offers aren't the end-all, be-all of college recruiting. What a huge stroke of luck that he decided to walk-on to OU out of nowhere.
 
Baker Baker the Touchdown Maker...everyone says they see Johnny Football in him, but when I watch him scramble, it reminds me of Fran Tarkenton, especially his never quit, never give up on a play attitude.

I was going to make that comparison with Tark, I didn't think anyone here would know who Frannie was! Ha!
 
I was going to make that comparison with Tark, I didn't think anyone here would know who Frannie was! Ha!

I guess Berry Trammell wrote an article last week comparing Baker to Billy Kilmer, not because of the scrambling, but from the viewpoint that Billy Kilmer didn't have a lot of athletic ability and no one thought he would start for the Redskins, let alone play, and he ended up playing for years...I think he reminds me more of Tarkenton - man he could keep a play alive for 10 minutes and throw a bomb for a TD in the end.

I guess that's how we know we're getting old...you mention a name from the past and no one knows who it is...that, and how bad it hurts to get up every morning.
 
I guess Berry Trammell wrote an article last week comparing Baker to Billy Kilmer, not because of the scrambling, but from the viewpoint that Billy Kilmer didn't have a lot of athletic ability and no one thought he would start for the Redskins, let alone play, and he ended up playing for years...I think he reminds me more of Tarkenton - man he could keep a play alive for 10 minutes and throw a bomb for a TD in the end.

I guess that's how we know we're getting old...you mention a name from the past and no one knows who it is...that, and how bad it hurts to get up every morning.

Oh yeah, Fran was hands down, win or lose the most fun, entertaining QB the NFL has had.
I don't think he did, so I'll say I wish he'd got a Super Bowl ring while he was with the Viqueens.:rolleyes:
 
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Baker Baker the Touchdown Maker...everyone says they see Johnny Football in him, but when I watch him scramble, it reminds me of Fran Tarkenton, especially his never quit, never give up on a play attitude.
You are indeed correct. Fran Tarkenton all over again with a little better arm perhaps. (at this stage of development)

GO SOONERS !!!!!!!!!
 
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I guess Berry Trammell wrote an article last week comparing Baker to Billy Kilmer, not because of the scrambling, but from the viewpoint that Billy Kilmer didn't have a lot of athletic ability and no one thought he would start for the Redskins, let alone play, and he ended up playing for years...I think he reminds me more of Tarkenton - man he could keep a play alive for 10 minutes and throw a bomb for a TD in the end.

I guess that's how we know we're getting old...you mention a name from the past and no one knows who it is...that, and how bad it hurts to get up every morning.

The only reason Kilmer was a high draft pick, will make you feel older. His senior year at UCLA was 1960. And back then, UCLA was one of two prominent college football programs running the single wing. Not the spread; the old time single wing offense. (The other was Tennessee)

In 1960, the 49ers basically changed not part time, but their whole offense to what was called the shotgun, which was the precursor to all the spreads you see these days. Red Hickey was their HC. It was his deal.

Everybody considered Kilmer a running back for the NFL, even though he'd taken the snaps as a single wing tailback at UCLA. The 49ers also saw him as a running back, but thought they could also use him as a duel threat quarterback in their new shotgun. Colleges, especially the best schools, mostly ran their quarterbacks in those days. Holding rules were prohibitively over the top. Holding was 15 yards from the spot of the foul, meaning you could easily lose 20 yards for trying to throw the football. The best teams had a quarterback who was their best throwing halfback.

Dan Reeves was a college quarterback. So was Paul Hornung. They were running backs in the NFL.

Kilmer never was much of a spiral thrower. But he was incredibly tough and a winner. He was in a horrible traffic accident around 1962 or 63 which pretty much ruined his running back career. He was part of the unprotected players during expansion and went to the Saints, but got some time as their beaten up quarterback. When George Allen moved from Rams coach to the Redskins, he was a guy whose philosophy was to acquire veteran players because he didn't like having people without the experience to avoid mistakes. He took Kilmer to be a back up quarterback to Sonny Jurgensen.. But Billy was the most reliable, primarily because his toughness put him on the field if he could walk. He beat out Jurgensen who was five years older at 37. Ironically, three years later, Kilmer started the ten games where he was available, Jurgensen only four. Billy only played in those ten games. Jurgensen played in all 14.

I think Baker Baker throws a much better spiral than Billy ever could hope to.
 
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