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B. Stoops Leaving In Key Players 5 TD's UP at 8-10 Minutes left?

Sep 13, 2006
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This is his biggest fault. There is no justification for this, yet he has done it for 15 years. Is he just bonehead stupid or what? I actually think he totally leaves it to assistants. Nevertheless what the F? Stupidity. Ignorance?
 
Believe it or not, OU had to have an impressive win against the Pokes. The Sooner's playoff spot isn't a 100% done-deal, in spite of what most think.

Also, the way the Big 12 tie-breaker rules are written, all those games leading up to Bedlam required the Sooners to score, score, score and prevent scoring. Because scoring differential is important if needed and may determine who wins the conference.

b.3 reads... "Scoring differential among the tied teams. The team with the lowest difference between points scored and points allowed in games vs. the tied teams are eliminated from consideration."


Nice flame bait. It's surprising that it took you nine years to expose yourself like this. Being that it isn't your posting style, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with the possibility that someone else posted this using your account.
 
Believe it or not, OU had to have an impressive win against the Pokes. The Sooner's playoff spot isn't a 100% done-deal, in spite of what most think.

Also, the way the Big 12 tie-breaker rules are written, all those games leading up to Bedlam required the Sooners to score, score, score and prevent scoring. Because scoring differential is important if needed and may determine who wins the conference.

b.3 reads... "Scoring differential among the tied teams. The team with the lowest difference between points scored and points allowed in games vs. the tied teams are eliminated from consideration."


Nice flame bait. It's surprising that it took you nine years to expose yourself like this. Being that it isn't your posting style, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with the possibility that someone else posted this using your account.

Really? What tiebreaker are they going to use? There are no ties at the top. OU is the only team with one conference loss, the only tiebreakers will be for the losers. Who is second? Who cares...
 
Here is my take: Craaaaazy things can happen in Bedlam, and he wanted to make sure no surprises happened. He wanted put a beatdown on the Cowgirls that everyone in the country would be talking about. He wanted to put Gundy in his proper place. He wanted the potential OsU recruits to think twice about going to Stillwater. He would have over five weeks to heal anyone who got tweaked. He wanted to humiliate his in-state "rivals".
I'm good with all of that!
I only wish we'd broken 60!!!!!
 
This is his biggest fault. There is no justification for this, yet he has done it for 15 years. Is he just bonehead stupid or what? I actually think he totally leaves it to assistants. Nevertheless what the F? Stupidity. Ignorance?

Did you watch the TCU game the week before? And how fast a big lead can disappear? Bob can remember when a team was down 35 in the second half and won. I've seen a team with 18 minutes left in a high school game back in the days of veer offenses, make up four touchdowns to win 29-28 against one of the top five high school teams I've ever seen.

OSU has had some serious comebacks this year and if you lose momentum and get a bad turnover, it can change suddenly. With the conference title on the line, and voters to impress, yo u don't go screwing with that lead, until the very end. Bob did the right thing, and he's been doing that specific thing for 17 years.

If somebody comes back from down five touchdowns to beat you, you're not the guy who would have to stand in front of reporters to explain your thinking. You might be able to get away with that against KState, or maybe Akron. OSU was too good to take the foot off the pedal.

The stupidity and ignorance is yours. We didn't lead by 35 until there was slightly more than two minutes left. Bob did the right thing. But you're not likely to concede that ever.
 
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Well admittingly, there was at a point I was saying, "Ok, score again so we can take out the starters." But looking back, I think SoonersR4Real offered up a great plausible explanation in that they would have 5 weeks to heal. Add to that I also think Stoops & his coaches wanted to allow the starters to relish and enjoy their win as Champions. But there was no doubt that there is risk to this. Having said this, we've witnessed injuries during the practice as well.
 
Stoops did what they all do, run up the score to endear your team to the committee.

If if was such an egregious faux pas Gundy would have raised hell about it, believe me.
He knew what Bob was doing and still shook hands with him.

Hey speaking of shaking hands after the game, did you see that Patterson left Briles to stand at the alter and left the field w/o shaking his hand? If you guys think that we don't like Baylor, the TCU program actually despises Briles and the Baylor program. Looking around the state of Texas, it's currently the best rivalry going. And it's a good one at that.
 
Baylor hasn't confined their cheap shot tactics to just playing us. Patterson was livid with a hit that their cheap shot specialist safety put on Boykin, when TB was playing receiver two years ago. And then, after putting Boykin out of the game, he didn't leave the sidelines and was laughing about his hit. That wasn't the first disagreement, but it was huge.

Then last year, TCU got screwed by the stripes at the end of an all timer of a game. Third down from a little past midfield, with both offenses running up and down the field. Score 58-58 TCU throws a pass on the sidelines that looks a whole lot like pass interference. No call. Baylor gets the ball back and throws a long pass that looks very little like pass interference and the same guy who kept his hankie in his pocket two minutes earlier decides this should be called and it sets up the game winning field goal in the last minute.

I still cannot figure out why Baylor seems to have so many calls overlooked. It just fueled Patterson's grief over the Bears. Without those two calls. TCU would be in the final four last season.

When I think of Briles, mostly words that shouldn't be typed here come to mind. I think Patterson feels the same way.
 
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Really? What tiebreaker are they going to use? There are no ties at the top. OU is the only team with one conference loss, the only tiebreakers will be for the losers. Who is second? Who cares...

Please carefully read my post. Coming into November, there were four teams in the running for the B12 title. Nobody knew what was getting ready to happen.
 
Please carefully read my post. Coming into November, there were four teams in the running for the B12 title. Nobody knew what was getting ready to happen.

Yes, that, and I hope the league doesn't back load these pivotal games like that anymore. That was brutal.
OU was fortunate to be peaking and pretty much had all hands on deck for November...but my heart couldn't take doing it that way every year.

No way in hell.:eek:
 
I thought the backloading got us in with no doubt. If we had beaten Baylor six weeks ago, not sure it carries the clout that it does now. Or if Baylor had pasted OSU before Halloween, that we'd be given as much credit for mauling them last Saturday.

I'm not sure anything was intentionally backloaded other than the Baylor-TCU game. If Boykin comes back, TCU will be very good next season, and we play them the first game of the conference schedule next year. They way the ten team schedule in the conference has worked, we play TCU earlier when we go to FW and later when we play them in Norman. They have to re-arrange things because of the Texas arrangement for Thanksgiving with TCU and Tech. I just think that this year, we played TCU late because it was Tech's turn to go to Austin for Thanksgiving.
 
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I thought the backloading got us in with no doubt. If we had beaten Baylor six weeks ago, not sure it carries the clout that it does now. Or if Baylor had pasted OSU before Halloween, that we'd be given as much credit for mauling them last Saturday.

I'm not sure anything was intentionally backloaded other than the Baylor-TCU game. If Boykin comes back, TCU will be very good next season, and we play them the first game of the conference schedule next year. They way the ten team schedule in the conference has worked, we play TCU earlier when we go to FW and later when we play them in Norman. They have to re-arrange things because of the Texas arrangement for Thanksgiving with TCU and Tech. I just think that this year, we played TCU late because it was Tech's turn to go to Austin for Thanksgiving.

You are correct in this case that it negated, or neutralized the mystery loss in Dallas. What have you done for me lately?
Well, we just beat 3 top ten teams, all but one pretty soundly, three weeks running.
That is primarily how we were elevated to 3 in the quad.

But, we've plowed this field, everyone knows it. Getting redumdant...:rolleyes:
 
I've coached a lot of youth football. About 25 years ago, I had a nine year old who surprisingly became one of our running backs. About halfway through the season, he waited until after practice to ask me an important question.

"Coach, can I do this after I score a touchdown?" Then he did a back flip in full pads.I told him I'd have to check with the guy who ran the officiating in the league and get back to him. Under the rules of the late 1980s, that would get you a 15 yard ULC penalty, so I told him no.

But if he could do it, I suspect Sterling was pretty safe, so long as he didn't land on anybody else.
 
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I thought the backloading got us in with no doubt. If we had beaten Baylor six weeks ago, not sure it carries the clout that it does now. Or if Baylor had pasted OSU before Halloween, that we'd be given as much credit for mauling them last Saturday.

I'm not sure anything was intentionally backloaded other than the Baylor-TCU game. If Boykin comes back, TCU will be very good next season, and we play them the first game of the conference schedule next year. They way the ten team schedule in the conference has worked, we play TCU earlier when we go to FW and later when we play them in Norman. They have to re-arrange things because of the Texas arrangement for Thanksgiving with TCU and Tech. I just think that this year, we played TCU late because it was Tech's turn to go to Austin for Thanksgiving.
Thankfully (for our sake, lol) he's a senior.
 
Does this mean you hate me?

At one time Fort Worth called me out for negative posting. I listened to him and put some posters I didn't care for on ignore. Since then I've noticed FW calls out more positive posters than I did the negative ones. I think he needs to take the advice he gave me......JMO.
 
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barkingyank has been on the list for the entire board for years now. WNAS got added by most of the board yesterday. It's a VERY short list, and has ONLY the best people. ;)
 
This is his biggest fault. There is no justification for this, yet he has done it for 15 years. Is he just bonehead stupid or what? I actually think he totally leaves it to assistants. Nevertheless what the F? Stupidity. Ignorance?
Yep, that Bob Stoops is one dumb person. He doesn't even rotate his players. Same 22 guys play all the snaps.

It's a shame that the ENTIRE college football world doesn't come down on our ignorant head coach for his ignorance. A damn shame.
 
Hey speaking of shaking hands after the game, did you see that Patterson left Briles to stand at the alter and left the field w/o shaking his hand? If you guys think that we don't like Baylor, the TCU program actually despises Briles and the Baylor program. Looking around the state of Texas, it's currently the best rivalry going. And it's a good one at that.
WNS - Two Southern Baptist schools...you know why Southern Baptist don't make love standing up? Someone will think they are dancing.
 
Did you watch the TCU game the week before? And how fast a big lead can disappear? Bob can remember when a team was down 35 in the second half and won. I've seen a team with 18 minutes left in a high school game back in the days of veer offenses, make up four touchdowns to win 29-28 against one of the top five high school teams I've ever seen.

OSU has had some serious comebacks this year and if you lose momentum and get a bad turnover, it can change suddenly. With the conference title on the line, and voters to impress, yo u don't go screwing with that lead, until the very end. Bob did the right thing, and he's been doing that specific thing for 17 years.

If somebody comes back from down five touchdowns to beat you, you're not the guy who would have to stand in front of reporters to explain your thinking. You might be able to get away with that against KState, or maybe Akron. OSU was too good to take the foot off the pedal.

The stupidity and ignorance is yours. We didn't lead by 35 until there was slightly more than two minutes left. Bob did the right thing. But you're not likely to concede that ever.
We saw the TCU game. OU's big lead was diminished more from Mayfield's absence in the second half as it was TCU's comeback. The likelihood of that game being decided by a failed two-point conversion in the final seconds was minimal had Mayfield played the entire game. His presence on the field makes OU at least two touchdowns better in every game.
I would be very careful with attacking other fans with remarks like "The stupidity and ignorance is yours", which you routinely do.
 
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Excuse me but Bob Stoops had Baker take a knee at the OSU goal line at the end of the game. He has consistently done this in other games.
 
barkingyank has been on the list for the entire board for years now. WNAS got added by most of the board yesterday. It's a VERY short list, and has ONLY the best people. ;)

Boom #1.

Ha! Fortunately for the many posters on this board & despite your personal agendas, the board consists of more than you & your list.

You can't quit me.

Boomer!
 
Crap can happen, but it didn't. In the mean time we put up enough points that the committee seems to be impressed.
Like I wrote earlier - I WANTED TO SEE 60 POINTS!!!!
 
Boom #1.

Ha! Fortunately for the many posters on this board & despite your personal agendas, the board consists of more than you & your list.

You can't quit me.

Boomer!

LOL...thought you put me on ignore...again??? ;) Was just a little "test" to see if you could be truthful...for once. Fail.
 
We saw the TCU game. OU's big lead was diminished more from Mayfield's absence in the second half as it was TCU's comeback. The likelihood of that game being decided by a failed two-point conversion in the final seconds was minimal had Mayfield played the entire game. His presence on the field makes OU at least two touchdowns better in every game.
I would be very careful with attacking other fans with remarks like "The stupidity and ignorance is yours", which you routinely do.

I used that phrase because there were the exact words he used to describe BStoops. If that was fair, then so was using the identical phrase to describe his post.
 
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