And so the long road to football 2020 begins.
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'Tis better to have made the playoffs and lost than never to have made the playoffs at all.
From an OU fan I thought it was sad – always a bridesmaid, never a bride. And now on to the Texans and their 1st Super Bowl victory.
From an OU fan I thought it was sad – always a bridesmaid, never a bride. And now on to the Texans and their 1st Super Bowl victory.
Not when it means getting slaughtered by much better teams every year and fielding an Ivy League defense each time out. OU is a joke right now.'Tis better to have made the playoffs and lost than never to have made the playoffs at all.
From an OU fan I thought it was sad – always a bridesmaid, never a bride. And now on to the Texans and their 1st Super Bowl victory.
Yes OU is the butt of a many joke today But there are well over 100 Div 1 schools that are envious of the accomplishments that OU earns year in & year out.
I’m really jacked up for next year’s team. The (3) 5 star WR & QB will be fun to watch and the defense will be a year deeper with experience in Grinch’s scheme.
Boomer Sooner baby!
I’m really jacked up for next year’s team. The (3) 5 star WR & QB will be fun to watch and the defense will be a year deeper with experience in Grinch’s scheme.
Boomer Sooner baby!
No doubt the Offense will be fine. Maybe get the King and Selmons involved to help Grinch man up the Defense ? Somebody/Anybody ?
I remember a couple years ago when a report came out that Stoops got all pissed at Bosworth for making public comments about how bad our D was LOL. I can only imagine how Riley feels right now because EVERYONE is publicly ridiculing our D
The Selmons and even the King can’t fix this defense or any defense in today’s CFB. This is a completely different animal today. Get used to 35 points as a minimum for teams in the playoffs. It’s just the way it is.
Oh & 11 months. That’s right 11 months for Grinch to have employed by OU. He’s done OK. Better than OK actually. While I understand that it’s difficult to hear...but necessary....
Patience Grasshopper
Oh & 11 months. That’s right 11 months for Grinch to have employed by OU. He’s done OK. Better than OK actually. While I understand that it’s difficult to hear...but necessary....
Patience Grasshopper
https://247sports.com/Article/Linco...ege-Football-Playoff-Semifinal-140988639/Amp/Reading this article makes me wonder about Riley’s thoughts on defense and what he expects OU’s defense to look like. When discussing being the underdog to LSU and telling the reporters that OU is going to go ahead and show up and see what happens he goes on to say that “people said we wouldn’t play great defense here”.
Now is he referring to OU playing great defense in present tense or is he referring to something that may happen in the future? If it’s present tense I’m at a loss and concerned
Now is he referring to OU playing great defense in present tense or is he referring to something that may happen in the future? If it’s present tense I’m at a loss and concerned
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It bothers Riley but maybe only because he is tired of hearing about it, he mentioned a few times this year after a few games when talking to reporters that you can play defense in the big 12, he would say it with a stern almost pissed off tone. It was after a few games where the defense played well, don't recall which games though.
I hope it pisses them off, if it doesn't they should not be Coaching at OU.
*2.5 x 5-star WR since Bridges will be suspended for the first 5 games.
Does anyone know if the suspended players get to practice while serving their time?
The defense is always a concern but what concerns me also is the fact our Offense has been outscored 80-24 in the last 2 playoff appearances in the first half. It was 31-10 at the half vs Bama last year and this year vs LSU it was 49-14 at the half. The offense has been stinking it up just as bad as the defense has.
More than anything else, I want this game with LSU to be a benchmark event for OU......a once-and-for-all wake up call to motivate OU to reaching a higher level of commitment.
But I'm not sure playing in the Big 12 will help OU restore its 70 year old legacy. OU and the Big 12 have a bad reputation these days.
There was nothing in the video that Scottsdale presented that wasn't the truth about OU football. And watching it reminded me that even having the state of Texas as its main recruiting turf, OU may be stranded geographically in terms of recruiting and having membership in such a mediocre conference, especially with the demise of Texas and the absence of Texas A&M.
OU has cherry picked nationwide in recruiting, which is absolutely what it needs to do, but the top talent on defense just isn't coming in and the results have been horrible. Building a defensive reputation to attract talent has to be gained and it's now going to be a huge challenge for OU after years of arena style football to do so. But it has to be done if we are ever going to be worthy on a NATIONAL championship....and if we are ever going to avoid more embarrassment.
But I'm not sure playing in the Big 12 will help OU restore its 70 year old legacy. OU and the Big 12 have a bad reputation these days.
There was nothing in the video that Scottsdale presented that wasn't the truth about OU football. And watching it reminded me that even having the state of Texas as its main recruiting turf, OU may be stranded geographically in terms of recruiting and having membership in such a mediocre conference, especially with the demise of Texas and the absence of Texas A&M.
OU has cherry picked nationwide in recruiting, which is absolutely what it needs to do, but the top talent on defense just isn't coming in and the results have been horrible. Building a defensive reputation to attract talent has to be gained and it's now going to be a huge challenge for OU after years of arena style football to do so. But it has to be done if we are ever going to be worthy on a NATIONAL championship....and if we are ever going to avoid more embarrassment.
Couldn't get through the stupidity of the first 12 seconds. Dumb rednecks trying too hard to be cute.
That does it! Pulling my $59.49 out of Renasant Bank and closing my account!
That bank doesn't even do business in Louisiana. Just another example of SEC lackeys living vicariously through the conference.
I think I have seen some here in Arkiesaw.
Haven't been to Louisiana since a trip to New Orleans back in 93, once was enough for me! There used to be a pic of me in Pat O'Briens drinking 2 Hurricanes because the GF didn't want hers after a couple of drinks out of it so I finished em both. She went back several yrs later with the cheatee and she told me she saw the pic of me on the wall from our visit. My only claim to fame.
Out of 130 HC out there only 4 were interviewed. Serious question. What’s he supposed to say?
Saddest thing about that video is that the crackers that founded that bank thought that's how you spell Renaissance.
Well I certainly wouldn't have given the impression that I thought we were playing great defense when everyone in the country was saying our defense was severely lacking before the LSU game. And then get blown out by LSU his comments are even more glaring Imo.
OK, that's what you wouldn't say... what would you say?
How about this: I'd say we'll go ahead and show up but leave any comments about our defense being great to himself because it sure as hell ain't, it hasn't been for years and remains to be seen if it will in the immediate future.
I have confidence in Grinch. We need help, Joe C make some deals please
Playing great defense can be done but its gonna take some time, great recruiting, developing players and a lot of praying.
If these Coaches and their Bosses don't see that by now that its become detrimental to the Brand that is OU then I don't know what it will take.
If these Coaches and their Bosses don't see that by now that its become detrimental to the Brand that is OU then I don't know what it will take.
I know one thing as a dad to a couple of teenagers, motivating kids these days is a lot different then when I was growing up. It can be done no doubt, look at Saban, Venables, Etc but I guess you’ve got to have the right message and have these kids buy in. I know for a fact that most kids these days don’t Have the same value and sense of pride that the generation before them had. Too many distractions and other things to get their attention.
You go back and look at our defense in the early 2000’s and those kids just had a different mindset, they played hard, they had pride and some of them sure as heck were not highly ranked recruits they were just dedicated to getting better.
In an onfield interview this year after one of our very close games, may have been against ISU or Baylor, Riley was emotional and going on about how there are some really good teams in the Big 12 etc. I can appreciate that Riley is an emotional guy and I as a fan can agree somewhat with what he said but the disconnect comes when I watch these bowl games that Big 12 teams are losing in it makes one wonder what Riley’s perception of being good is compared to the rest of the country? I’m hoping his Tech years didn’t paint too many lasting impressions in his head. Wash. St. is nowhere near a playoff team with Leach.
You go back and look at our defense in the early 2000’s and those kids just had a different mindset, they played hard, they had pride and some of them sure as heck were not highly ranked recruits they were just dedicated to getting better.
In an onfield interview this year after one of our very close games, may have been against ISU or Baylor, Riley was emotional and going on about how there are some really good teams in the Big 12 etc. I can appreciate that Riley is an emotional guy and I as a fan can agree somewhat with what he said but the disconnect comes when I watch these bowl games that Big 12 teams are losing in it makes one wonder what Riley’s perception of being good is compared to the rest of the country? I’m hoping his Tech years didn’t paint too many lasting impressions in his head. Wash. St. is nowhere near a playoff team with Leach.
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OU Fans need to realize that Team on the Field against LSU was not the Full OU Team. We were not going to win that game, we are not currently as constructed a Top 4 Team. Making it to that game was a matter of a lot of luck and sheer determination. No way could a reasonable OU Fan watch every game this season and think we were going to beat LSU and that was before the Suspensions and Injury to Turner-Yell and then Bookie with a dumb play. By the end of the 1st Quarter, we had No Perkins, No Turner-Yell, No Bookie, No Sermon or Calc (lets not forget we didn't have those guys all year basically) and No Stevenson. Yes, I know injuries and suspensions happen, but there is a huge drop off in depth with so many young guys. A full compliment of players in that game would have definitely kept it closer, but still probably not enough.
I totally agree. It's been awhile since OU has had the depth to still be competitive when we have injuries or other issues that keep our starters off the field. Actually, and as you point out, we are not competitive enough now to win against any of the other three playoff teams even playing with a full deck.
It is just football...get with it....an idiot would have know we needed a pass rush against LSU or were dead meat....
Sure maybe we didn’t anticipate refs would not call ; 1) holding, 2 lineman downfield, 3 ) PI....but we knew or should have known we needed more than a three man pass rush....
Sure maybe we didn’t anticipate refs would not call ; 1) holding, 2 lineman downfield, 3 ) PI....but we knew or should have known we needed more than a three man pass rush....
This idea that the Big XII can't play defense bugs me when I look at the numbers.
We regularly post top 25 defenses in the league regardless of the chosen defensive category, all while fielding the best offenses.
Other Big XII teams seem to show up and put up a fight against these football "mammoths." OU is usually the only team that lays down in these bowl games. Are we recruiting defense worse than the others?
It seems to me that the Big XII has received the black eye on defense solely from OU, as we are the face of the Big XII.
Like I think WNAS has stated, Grinch has 1 more year to get his boys into all of the positions. Then, this is a coaching problem. We should at least be putting up fights like our little brothers.
We regularly post top 25 defenses in the league regardless of the chosen defensive category, all while fielding the best offenses.
Other Big XII teams seem to show up and put up a fight against these football "mammoths." OU is usually the only team that lays down in these bowl games. Are we recruiting defense worse than the others?
It seems to me that the Big XII has received the black eye on defense solely from OU, as we are the face of the Big XII.
Like I think WNAS has stated, Grinch has 1 more year to get his boys into all of the positions. Then, this is a coaching problem. We should at least be putting up fights like our little brothers.
Even the best defensive coach would need time to turn around OU's pathetic defense. Grinch inherited a difficult and challenging task and there is so much to be done starting with recruiting and molding the on-hand talent into respectable defensive units.
Consider that OU recruited the top defensive talent from the JUCO ranks (Winfrey) and a 4-star lineman (Grimes) has committed and is due to sign in February. Two 4-star DBs (Eaton and Washington) have also signed. These four (and a few others) should see playing time this year.
But replacing Gallimore, Murray and Mann could be a problem at least early on.
Right now, I believe Texas will be far and away OU's biggest game, especially with Ehlinger returning at QB for UT.....with Baylor in town the week before.
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A great short-term thing for perception would be if lsu would mudhole swampboat Clem for the Natty and that would mollify a bit of the noise perhaps.
Bottom line we have to continue to dominate the 12 for 4 more years, get much better Defensively and be ready to hit the exit for greener pastures when the time comes
Bottom line we have to continue to dominate the 12 for 4 more years, get much better Defensively and be ready to hit the exit for greener pastures when the time comes
I could be wrong but I would be flat out surprised if Norwood, Bookie and Brown are not starters next year. If those guys haven’t been beaten out yet, I don’t think it’ll happen. Now I know Norwood got hurt so I guess it’ll depend on how he heals up but I think Riley is like Stoops as far as playing incumbent starters because they know the system and have been in it. I hope I’m wrong.
Except Riley played more freshmen and redshirt freshmen years. Take a look at the playing rosters per game.
Grinch better have the feedbags on the boys and have them busting ass in the weight room for next year...
Not for me, we lost and looked bad doing it. I felt pretty good last year after Bama stomped us and then watched them get routed by Clempson. Hope they do it to lsux too.
I have seen some say that Baker or Kyler would have won a Natty with this years defense lol, NO WAY!
Here's a novel approach: as a soon to be 78 year old fan of OU football who has lived through the entire era of our football excellence, I'd like to sit down with our D staff and hand them a bio on every great Sooner D player, from Tom Catlin to Jerry Tubbs, from Carl McAdams to Granville Liggins, from the Selmons, Randy Hughes, and Shoate and Cumby to Brian Bozworth, Ricky Dickson, and Zac Henderson to Roy William's, Derrick Strait, Tommy Harris, and Gerald McCoy. Our history is 2nd to none when it comes to great D players and great D. I left out Bobby Boyd and David Baker...I'm sure many more but the point is, our D staff must understand the legacy they are entrusted with and bound to uphold.
