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Alternative uniforms

The Oklahoma Sooners should wear Crimson and Cream. This wood b.s. looks like crap, just like it did last year. aTm might like glow in the dark helmets, aOm might wear a different uniform every week. They're both aggies and it is expected. OU is known by everyone until they go out in those trash uni's... the father-in-law actually asked who was playing and why I wasn't watching Oklahoma today....
WTF!?!?!?
 
I was at the game.

I thought the uniforms looked bad. I like the red bottoms with the white tops ... but this was pretty bad.

And the Kansas fans even commented on the uniforms. One said they looked like high school stuff.
 
Especially bad with the black leggings and then several kids pull their pants up above the knee 6". The one thing I like about the NFL is that every player has to be dressed out the same.....or at least it use to be that way. I don't watch pro football more at all anymore.
 
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Okay, we've done the throw back/alternate uni's. Seems like the majority of OU fans don't really care for them and the players seem pretty indifferent. Can we just go back to wearing the traditional uni and leave the high school stuff to Oregon, Maryland, OSU and A&M?
 
today's version was the worst.. Looked dirty, black shoes , ugh! Our traditional uniform is one of the best in football, what's the deal?

Bill, I don't know how old you are, but I'm 64 and I like em just about as much as you do.

But the players seem to like them a lot. If you've seen the video of when they were unveiled before I guess it was last season, the players went nuts.

There seems to be an inverse relationship between how old you are and how much you like the alternate uni's.

The players like them for whatever long ago reasons.

The coaches like them, because for whatever reason, the players and especially the recruits seem to prefer the new look a month philosophy and by changing the combinations, we can do that.

And Nike really loves them, because they have more kinds of OU jerseys that they can sell.

I remember when I was 15 in 1966 and Jim Mackenzie changed OU's uniform look drastically. We went from white helmets with a crimson stripe white and and absolutely nothing to decorate the jersey or the pants, to a very different look.

Solid crimson helmets with no stripe, but northwestern stripes on the jerseys and piping on the pants. The interlocking OU on the side of the helmet was this small little sticker less than four inches high. And for the first time, TV numbers on the sleeves.

When Chuck Fairbanks took over in 67 the helmet logo more than doubled in size to the same look as is now the tradition. And in every one of these looks, solid black shoes.

Fairbanks changed the look in 1969. We took away the stripes on the shirts. New Mesh material for the first time. Still black shoes.

When Joe Namath went to the NFL, he was the only player in the league to wear white shoes.

For the 1970 Astro Bluebonnet Bowl, we put names on the back of the jersey. A year later, we wore white shoes, I think the first college team to do that. But the trim was black on the shoes. A year later, Spotbilt made crimson trim for the first time. The players loved it.

Sometime in Barry's time, they putting the team name on the front.

Every one of these changes, the players loved it.

1957 Orange Bowl


1963 OB. We lost because of two Grisham red zone fumbles.
But two great Bama players. The game highlights don't start until halfway through the video.


The only change and change back during Bud's time, was when the NCAA started requiring numbers on the sides of the helmets in the early 60s. Otherwise, his team's uni's had no embellishments at all.
 
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Bill, I don't know how old you are, but I'm 64 and I like em just about as much as you do.

But the players seem to like them a lot. If you've seen the video of when they were unveiled before I guess it was last season, the players went nuts.

There seems to be an inverse relationship between how old you are and how much you like the alternate uni's.

The players like them for whatever long ago reasons.

The coaches like them, because for whatever reason, the players and especially the recruits seem to prefer the new look a month philosophy and by changing the combinations, we can do that.

And Nike really loves them, because they have more kinds of OU jerseys that they can sell.

I remember when I was 15 in 1966 and Jim Mackenzie changed OU's uniform look drastically. We went from white helmets with a crimson stripe white and and absolutely nothing to decorate the jersey or the pants, to a very different look.

Solid crimson helmets with no stripe, but northwestern stripes on the jerseys and piping on the pants. The interlocking OU on the side of the helmet was this small little sticker less than four inches high. And for the first time, TV numbers on the sleeves.

When Chuck Fairbanks took over in 67 the helmet logo more than doubled in size to the same look as is now the tradition. And in every one of these looks, solid black shoes.

Fairbanks changed the look in 1969. We took away the stripes on the shirts. New Mesh material for the first time. Still black shoes.

When Joe Namath went to the NFL, he was the only player in the league to wear white shoes.

For the 1970 Astro Bluebonnet Bowl, we put names on the back of the jersey. A year later, we wore white shoes, I think the first college team to do that. But the trim was black on the shoes. A year later, Spotbilt made crimson trim for the first time. The players loved it.

Sometime in Barry's time, they putting the team name on the front.

Every one of these changes, the players loved it.

1957 Orange Bowl


1963 OB. We lost because of two Grisham red zone fumbles.
But two great Bama players. The game highlights don't start until halfway through the video.


The only change and change back during Bud's time, was when the NCAA started requiring numbers on the sides of the helmets in the early 60s. Otherwise, his team's uni's had no embellishments at all.
Wow you really bring a lot of history to this board I am 42, so I appreciate posters that have some history. My kid likes New unis that are different but not too extreme. I am old school.
 
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I don't mind the alternate uniforms that we have worn the last two years. As long as we never have 800 uniform combinations, I am fine with wearing the alternates twice a year. I do prefer the traditional OU uniform though.
 
Bill, I don't know how old you are, but I'm 64 and I like em just about as much as you do.

But the players seem to like them a lot. If you've seen the video of when they were unveiled before I guess it was last season, the players went nuts.

There seems to be an inverse relationship between how old you are and how much you like the alternate uni's.

The players like them for whatever long ago reasons.

The coaches like them, because for whatever reason, the players and especially the recruits seem to prefer the new look a month philosophy and by changing the combinations, we can do that.

And Nike really loves them, because they have more kinds of OU jerseys that they can sell.

I remember when I was 15 in 1966 and Jim Mackenzie changed OU's uniform look drastically. We went from white helmets with a crimson stripe white and and absolutely nothing to decorate the jersey or the pants, to a very different look.

Solid crimson helmets with no stripe, but northwestern stripes on the jerseys and piping on the pants. The interlocking OU on the side of the helmet was this small little sticker less than four inches high. And for the first time, TV numbers on the sleeves.

When Chuck Fairbanks took over in 67 the helmet logo more than doubled in size to the same look as is now the tradition. And in every one of these looks, solid black shoes.

Fairbanks changed the look in 1969. We took away the stripes on the shirts. New Mesh material for the first time. Still black shoes.

When Joe Namath went to the NFL, he was the only player in the league to wear white shoes.

For the 1970 Astro Bluebonnet Bowl, we put names on the back of the jersey. A year later, we wore white shoes, I think the first college team to do that. But the trim was black on the shoes. A year later, Spotbilt made crimson trim for the first time. The players loved it.

Sometime in Barry's time, they putting the team name on the front.

Every one of these changes, the players loved it.

1957 Orange Bowl


1963 OB. We lost because of two Grisham red zone fumbles.
But two great Bama players. The game highlights don't start until halfway through the video.


The only change and change back during Bud's time, was when the NCAA started requiring numbers on the sides of the helmets in the early 60s. Otherwise, his team's uni's had no embellishments at all.

What teams didn't wear black cleats in those days? Was there another color available? I know in the mid 70's I only had two choices. Black or white. I could buy some red Chuck Taylor's for basketball, but in football or baseball you had black or white, period. My older brothers loved the fact that they could wear white baseball spikes. They grew up a few years after you and had no option until high school.

Joe Washington had to paint his shoes silver. I had to paint mine as well, but old T.K. wouldn't let me wear them and certainly wouldn't give me number 24. I guess I didn't deserve it though. I was no Joe Washington by any stretch of the imagination. I suppose Steve Ulmer didn't deserve that scar down the side of his face from a white baseball spike, but it wouldn't have bothered me if it would have been his brother....
 
The alternative uniforms that OU has worn are fine. No black, no other colors, just crimson and cream. What's wrong with that? If the players like them, that's great. It's not about the fans, its about the players.

Myself, I would like a light blue Oklahoma flag symbol somewhere on the alternate jersey...
 
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What teams didn't wear black cleats in those days? Was there another color available? I know in the mid 70's I only had two choices. Black or white. I could buy some red Chuck Taylor's for basketball, but in football or baseball you had black or white, period. My older brothers loved the fact that they could wear white baseball spikes. They grew up a few years after you and had no option until high school.

Joe Washington had to paint his shoes silver. I had to paint mine as well, but old T.K. wouldn't let me wear them and certainly wouldn't give me number 24. I guess I didn't deserve it though. I was no Joe Washington by any stretch of the imagination. I suppose Steve Ulmer didn't deserve that scar down the side of his face from a white baseball spike, but it wouldn't have bothered me if it would have been his brother....

Every team in football wore black cleats, high school, college and the NFL. Broadway Joe Namath wore white. My junior year, we wore white shoes, with black trim. There was nobody wearing any colors at that time on their shoes. No teams at any level. I am not sure if anybody else was wearing white in '71, but nobody did it before that as a team. We were white with black trim on the shoes in '71 and white with crimson trim in 1972. I cannot remember if we wore those white shoes in the 1970 Astro Bluebonnet Bowl, but I'm sure we wore names on the back of the jerseys in that game.

I remember when we were breaking out the boxes, and Jack Baer was very security conscious about that. When you consider that in 1965, Gomer's last season, 1971 was only six years later. That was a 180. Gomer in Bud's tradition had no frills uniforms. No piping. No stripes. No helmet decor of any kind. Same as another Bud disciple, DKR who used to get asked about it in Austin a lot and his standard reply was: "These are our work clothes." But they did have the Longhorn on the helmet for more than his last decade.

At OU Mackenzie changed the program and in 1966, and we were adding at least once every three years or so. Or more often.

The AFL started the practice of names on the backs of jerseys in 1960, but the didn't happen in the NFL until the merger in 1970, the same year we first wore them in a bowl game. It was a big deal. But the details weren't the point of the post. The point is that while as an old guy, I like the tradition of the last 50 years, that back then, I loved the changes and the players really loved those changes.

So for me, as long as they don't just change the color scheme, I'm good with what makes those guys happy. If I have a complaint about the uni's we wore yesterday, it's that some of the digits are hard to read. Maybe it's old eyes, but the 2's look a lot like 8's from the wrong camera angle.

As somebody wrote earlier today, do we really care what it looks like, if they play well and win?
 
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If a kid wants to really play and get a shot at the NFL, it won't matter what he wears. I like tradition and being old school. Alabama has an alternate uni, I think they are black, but have not worn them yet.
 
If a kid wants to really play and get a shot at the NFL, it won't matter what he wears. I like tradition and being old school. Alabama has an alternate uni, I think they are black, but have not worn them yet.

I have seen Alabama wear theirs in prior years. And they were black.
 
I was at the game.

I thought the uniforms looked bad. I like the red bottoms with the white tops ... but this was pretty bad.

And the Kansas fans even commented on the uniforms. One said they looked like high school stuff.
Cream jersey and Crimson britches. I've seen the Texans wear the white top and red skirts* and that looks good.

*With the way the Texans are playing they ought to be wearing a dress. If the Texans wore power blue jerseys it would be just like old times.
 
I don't object to the concept of alternate unis, but if we're going to do it, then it needs to absolutely POP! This wood grain thing just doesn't do that. I doubt it catches any recruits' attention.
 
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I don't object to the concept of alternate unis, but if we're going to do it, then it needs to absolutely POP! This wood grain thing just doesn't do that. I doubt it catches any recruits' attention.
I would imagine some of the original designs by the team members were vetoed out by the administration/alumni. This was a compromise. I think it is just weird that the kids get excited about putting on a wild uniform versus playing ball....or that an exciting uniform improves their performance?...'eh?
 
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What uniforms were worn at the RRR last month?

Seriously, I can't remember, but I do remember the loss.
 
I can't get my arms wrapped around the notion that alternate uniforms are such a damn big deal for today's college athletes. What happened to those players that were simply proud to be and play for the Oklahoma Sooners? Since when did players have any voice in the team uniforms? If that is important to a recruit, maybe that kid won't ever understand how important it is to win at OU and beat the the hell out of Texas and win the Big 12 every year he is a Sooner, and play for a national championship before his time at Oklahoma is over.
 
Not a fan of alternate uniforms. I understand uniforms change a little over the ages, I don't have a problem with that. Add a stripe here, or larger font of letters, etc. But by and large the players and coaches of old made incredible sacrifices to make our program one of the elite. One of those recognizable signs of who we are is our brand, namely our uniforms. An alternate uniform is like having an alternate US Flag, just so the kids of our current generation can root for something their own. They tend to forget that the uniform is more than just a uniform. It's a symbol of who we are and what we've accomplished long before most of us got here.

The side you fall on in this discussion probably is inversely proportional to age. I take pride in that. I understand that the youth by and large have the responsibility to make changes, to come up with new ideas to keep us from getting stagnant. New ideas, and change, is important to going forward. Stagnate, and we die. However, you can change so much so quickly that you lose what you once were, and you become something different than where you started. That's where age, and an appreciation for the traditions and history that makes us "us", is vitally important. Lose sight of that, and you lose who you are, and all that was fought for and won by the sacrifices made by the people who came before us.

Long tangent, I know. Carry on.
 
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