Some say that Arnold may be the one of the worst 5-star qb's to come out of high school, but going back and looking at that entire recruiting class, its kinda disappointing. I believe that class was a top 5 class (#8 transfer), going down the list 3 or 4 of them are no longer on the team. None of the guys have really stood out, 5-star PJ Adebawore, 5-star Jackson Arnold, 5-star Peyton Bowen, all these havent lived up to the hype. The OL in particular havent been good, Green is at Mizzu, Howland, Bates, Ozaeta havent developed. Hopefully this class can stay together and develop over the offseason. OU has tons of talented players, this class in particular needs to figure it out, if they do not it will be another long season next year.
2023 Recruiting class
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Over rated or poorly developed? Maybe a little of both. Regardless, very disappointed thus far.
Coe, I think your expectations are way premature. PJ Adebawore is something I would have expected more from. A pass rusher ought to have impact before the end of two years. But the OL and the QB are likely the two positions where the experience is the biggest factor. There are expectation. But even Peyton Manning was only so so in his first year as a starter. He only got the job because the guy in front of him got hurt very early in season 1. Now granted, Peyton played as a true freshman, and Arnold had a redshirt year when he got to play some.
But Arnold's surrounding talant hasn't been this depleted in over a decade. Maybe 25 years. Our OLine with all the injruies, and the receiving corps with even more. are putting out half their guys up to OU standards. And those younger linemen are unseasoned in the position that most requires it. That's why I wince at all the complaining about BV. I do think that he needs a rock star at OC. Somebody who really knows and has experience running a great offense, and is a great quarterback coach.
My caveat is that we've had a ton of guys, expecially Denton Guyer, who can be more than a little overrated. They were uniformly great high school players on great Guyer teams. But when you have that much talent on a team, weaknesses tend not to show up as much. Your team is so much better than 75% of the teams they play, most comparable teams in places aren't often until the third or fourth round of the playoffs, if then. I believe if you put JA behind a high quality OLine, he'd be a successful college quarterback, expecially after a couple of years. Most of OUr previous quarterbacks, got that experience elsewhere before transferring to OU.
This has been a year when most things that could go wrong, did go wrong. Complementary football never got a chance to happen. If next year goes like this year, then take the hit and fire BV. And also let's see what kind of schedule the SEC gives us in '25.
But Arnold's surrounding talant hasn't been this depleted in over a decade. Maybe 25 years. Our OLine with all the injruies, and the receiving corps with even more. are putting out half their guys up to OU standards. And those younger linemen are unseasoned in the position that most requires it. That's why I wince at all the complaining about BV. I do think that he needs a rock star at OC. Somebody who really knows and has experience running a great offense, and is a great quarterback coach.
My caveat is that we've had a ton of guys, expecially Denton Guyer, who can be more than a little overrated. They were uniformly great high school players on great Guyer teams. But when you have that much talent on a team, weaknesses tend not to show up as much. Your team is so much better than 75% of the teams they play, most comparable teams in places aren't often until the third or fourth round of the playoffs, if then. I believe if you put JA behind a high quality OLine, he'd be a successful college quarterback, expecially after a couple of years. Most of OUr previous quarterbacks, got that experience elsewhere before transferring to OU.
This has been a year when most things that could go wrong, did go wrong. Complementary football never got a chance to happen. If next year goes like this year, then take the hit and fire BV. And also let's see what kind of schedule the SEC gives us in '25.
