I recall it against OSU on the road...he made 2 picks toward end of game that would have sealed it, but were called back?..

At any rate, I remember him being around the ball and making plays even playing spare minutes as a here and there his first season as a 5th or 6th DB

I don’t intend for this to be a Tre bashing thread, but crazy to see how much he regressed

It's early but lets see if I can get my first pinned thread after 17 years!

ISU - 17
OU - 42

We all know the mess Stoops inherited at OU and that with the exception of a few years he was not bringing in top classes, but OU was known for player development. That is what set us apart was taking lower ranked kids, or kids who played different positions, and putting them in positions to excel.

Let's face it, Riley has shown no ability to develop players the way a young Bob Stoops did. This post isn't about Stoops in his later years or his failure to fire his brother, no, this is about how Stoops rebuilt this monster.

Right now Riley has much more in common with Mack Brown than Bob Stoops. He can recruit, but he's creating a soft culture at OU just like Mack. Unfortunately, unless Riley finds lightning in a bottle like Mack did for one season, Riley will never win a title at OU because so many other programs are so much stronger in recruiting and development.

Riley lacks a killer instinct that young Bob had too. We will never beat a power 5 team 77-0 under Riley. Riley is too nice and the players sense that. They know what they can get away with and they half-ass it and get manhandled physically because they are mentally soft.

One thing you could count on with Stoops is he would always, always bounce back from a loss. Losses consumed young Bob Stoops and we all got spoiled with expecting a big win after a bitter loss.

Every game on our schedule is a toss up now. oSu is going to destroy us if Riley doesn't wake up. Texas looks bad but that game as well as Baylor, WV and TCU are toss ups. The only game I feel confident is Kansas. Wow. Thanks Riley.

Well, as long as OU makes a bowl game, maybe OU can end the season with a win!

I think that the luster has worn off on Alex Grinch. Right now Mike Stoops might be more marketable as a HC.

Who wins?

This may be a strong opinion but I was, very much, a big fan of OU going after him hard as DC for a few reasons I will defend here:

1. He, or at least that staff at Bama, has a very strong track record of coaching FUNDAMENTALS incredibly well. They had a slight dip but are back up there again and even their dip amounted to CFP Title Game appearance.

2. Recruiting: The very fact of him just coming from an SEC program would carry weight with recruits whether you want to believe it or not. It also would’ve given Oklahoma the opportunity to improve that pipeline into GA, AL, and Florida.

3. Culture: Bringing in someone like that is to commit to the type of culture, defensively, that you see those top tier programs have that Oklahoma wants to be. It makes a statement that we recognize this Big 12, Oklahoma culture of defense just isn’t cutting it and we recognize who is at the top of that game right now.

Bringing in Grinch, I believe was not a horrible hire but I do not believe it made a strong enough statement about the culture that needed to change.

I don’t know what transpired which led OU to not go that direction but it may be a fork in the road where LR should’ve zigged when he zagged. If Golding wanted More money, they should’ve rolled out the truck.

just my two cents.

Need him back to help the running game to take pressure off Spencer. Obviously the offensive line has to get their act together for all the this to work.
Defense is like it always has been but our offense isn’t the same to overcome our defensive burdens.

All of us..

I honestly don’t know enough about Caleb to compare the two, so I’m hoping some more informed people can.

Are they similar in style?
Who has more arm talent?
More touch?

Both seem to exhibit a lot of leadership and intangibles. And I know Caleb is a physically larger guy.

Just curious in the comparison since we will see Spencer for 2 years and then the Caleb Williams era will begin.

Thanks for the insight.

Hey everybody especially @Josh_M, will be in Houston all next week. Looking for food recommendations, best burger, steak, pizza, and mexican restaurants. Probably a long shot but does anybody know a good comic shop in Houston?

With the whole Covid situation, don’t ignore the need to get yore annual vaccination against the more common flu strain.

Spencer Rattler has just been drafted #1 overall in the nfl draft. His career accomplishments:

Overall record: 26-1
1 National Title
1 heisman
2 big 12 titles
unanimous AA
crushed more box than Trevor knight

Sit back and enjoy, Sooner Brethren!

**For the doubters, please reference my last OU QB prediction in which I guaranteed Kyler would win the heisman (~early spring of ‘18).

Pledger became the first RB we've talked to in 2020 with his Zoom on Tuesday. So I asked what it's like with DeMarco Murray running the show?

"Juice. He's brought everything to the table, honestly. It's been a blessing to have him as our coach. Every day we come in and learn something new, we learn about the game of football outside of just the running back area, but defenses and different positions. He's opened our eyes up to a lot of different aspects of the game of football that has been a pleasure to be a part of so far."

Long climb back up.

Where is he. He has to be better than some of that half ass effort we were getting today.

Would you trade achievements since 2014 with Florida State? This means we win the national title in 2014, but have been a below-average program since, or would you take what OU has now (no titles). That means we don't go 0-4 in the playoffs in trade for 1 title, but we would be a terrible program currently?

35 to 3. Riley would be calling off the dogs and lose the lead. Lashlee appears to be a better OC than Riley.

Game cancelled because North Texas has Covid issues.

Dallas is awful. McCarthy will be unemployed again soon.

Having a great one, so far...fun to watch

Just curious since most of us spend time trashing the local writers.

Outside of the Scoop guys who we pay money every month too for out-dated rosters, who do you enjoy reading during the week?

I'll admit I still like a Berry Tramel article but Kersey might be my favorite. Not a fan of Keagan and I am luke-warm on Aber.

Who do you guys like reading?

Oct 17 start, eight game schedule + conf title game